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For real or NOT for REAL???

That is The Question!?!


 

I would always rather stay Positive & be the bearer of Good News! Always! Unfortunately I greatly dislike Liars, Lies, or phonies of any kind. It has recently brought to my attention, on my Native American sites, (one especially) that Keisha Crowthers the so called "Little Grandmother" is NOT who she claims to be??? It was very disheartening to me! Especially after listening to her first video speaking so lovingly of taking care of Mother Earth, her animals & so much more..... Some of the Native American people as well as many other people (NOT of Native American descent) claim that NOTHING checks out according to the way Keisha tells it and what she is saying.  The Elders (Elders of Native American Descent) claim that not only didn't they teach this woman from near or far, she does NOT belong to their tribe Salish or Sioux (no more Sioux only Lakota, Dakota & Nakota, only the white people called the Lakota Sioux and that means Snke!) & they have Never heard of her altogether with the exceptions of NOW! when people have come asking these questions! She has now been charging very big bucks (dollars US) to teach so called Native American teachings & this is NOT allowed by the Native Americans themselves! Their teachings are NOT allowed to be SOLD & their own people are NOT allowed to charge either!.


 

I did notice when her name and videos started flying through NING!

My higher self didn't react except to ignore her. 

When I first saw her message I didn't know anything or react. 

It did seem odd when she said her and twelve others were being taught since young from afar. 

Now knowing what I do, I cannot understand why,

if your message is GOOD,

why does it have to be based on LIES?!

No good can ever come from a lie! Everything about her childhood checked out as ALL LIES!

All I do is pass on what was presented to me and ask you to do some investigating of your own......

No one should believe anything based totally on face value and just what you're told! Myself included.

Please Look, Listen & Dig, Dig, Dig.....

All info & opinions are Welcome. I did join this group myself before I knew this.

I also asked Ramsiels' permission before I printed this. 

Please lets get to the bottom of this together.

Do not hate me I am only the messenger......

Much Love & Light to All! 

-  LORI - 

 

 

Here are 2 videos on U-Tube many more are attached to both of them & one video has other links to read that are attached. There are many clues..... No one just appears out of nowhere, that no one can verify and then jusst start charging big $ for teachings that are not allowed to be charged for if they were real!!! C'mon folks.  

 

                                                     
 



Here is the other video promised!

See for yourself!

 

 

 

 

 





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LORI MY DEAR ..NOW I AM HERE AND I WILL GO TO STUDY THIS..ALSO PLS I WOULD LIKE TO INFO YOU AS EARLY...ALL ACTIVITIES OF THIS GROUP ARENT NOT DISPLAYED ON MAIN PAGE...WHY ... I DONT KNOW..LATER  I HAVE TO WRITE TO NING.. MY SETTING HERE WASNT PRIVACY...NOW HUGS RAMS
LORI MY DEAR SIS, PLS TRY TO AGAIN POST THE SECOND VIDEO HERE...I LOST THIS DURING EDITING..AND THANKS MANY THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INFO HERE AND THERE ...APOLOGIZE MY ENGLISH IS BAD, ALSO I AM NOT AMERICAN, NO NATIVE  AMERICAN OR ELDER... AS I WROTE YOU I AM NOT ABLE  TO JUDGE WHERE IS TRUE AND WHERE IS LIE...ONLY DURING ALL TIME  I VERY SOO LOVED MY DEAREST KIESHA...... I HAVE TO ALL STUDY AS I INFORMED YOU..HUGS RAMS ...LIGHT TO ALL SOULS

I hav a hard time accepting this~  Her messages Feel Soo Heart Felt and  I still Like them ~ :o)

So who are these People here with her ~ Are They All Liers ?  I will believe it when I have more proof than just one lady talking on a youtube that I dont know. Thanks for sharing though ~ May Love and Light Prevail !

 

 

Sorry, I couldn't care less who she is, where she comes from and what kind of a degree she has!  I like what Keisha says, and that is good enough for me!  Love and Archangel Light, Dorothy
What Kiesha says resonates with me.From the first time I watched her videos.There will always be those that will try to degrade others.Time will tell as to her integrity and honesty.In the meantime,she fills my heart with love.
Yes that was a very big part of my argument. If her message is GOOD then why LIE about everything else? Your message should stand on it's own without the lies. No good can come from a lie let alone lies! So she didn't grow up in the wilderness secluded with the animals, in fact she was not only in school at one point but "very popular."  Not only wasn't she taught by Native Elders, she wasn't related, from the Tribes either or any other & was never heard of. Those are only a few things out of many, many that did NOT check out. I am not here to convince anyone of anything.  After being guided to ignore her myself, when I finally listened to one message, I was touched a bit and thought it sweet.....  My problem is; if you (anyone) has a good message to teach, Native or NOT Native/ GO AHEAD! Why make up a bunch of lies that could discredit your whole work? Also, anyone who has the slightest knowledge of Native American teachings, KNOW that even a Native American isn't allowed to charge for their teachings real or not!  So I am just passing along what I was asked to because I do not like lies or FRAUD.  Also, as far as I am concerned the Native American or American Indians have had way too much taken from them already!!! This is something very unecessary that is done to them ALL the time.  Everyone should search for themselves and go with what resonates with them.
Just to answer you briefly, No sometimes some people are led astray or mis guided, given  dis-information....  There were just too many lies and too many things for my taste. I will go over other things to keep an open mind but everyone and anyone with a grain of salt or is any type of Native Elder knows the Native Americans are NOT ALLOWED to charge for any Teachings, Workshops or anything of the kind. The only thing that was proven was that there was BIG Money & $$$$ who helped put her up there.... It's up to each of you. Her messag is touching, not bad, why the lies?

Lydia said:

I hav a hard time accepting this~  Her messages Feel Soo Heart Felt and  I still Like them ~ :o)

So who are these People here with her ~ Are They All Liers ?  I will believe it when I have more proof than just one lady talking on a youtube that I dont know. Thanks for sharing though ~ May Love and Light Prevail !

 

Thank You Lori ~ I know that You have Your Heart in a Right Place and Truly appreciate your Points and Allowing us to have this information so we may create our own conclusion.

To Be Honest the Way The World Is Today ~ This Is One of My Least concerns On the Big Scale of Things that are going On in This World ~ May Peace Love and Light Prevail

and as Buddha Said :

"Don't blindly believe what I say. Don't believe me because others convince you of my words. Don't believe anything you see, read, or hear from others, whether of authority, religious teachers or texts. Don't rely on logic alone, nor speculation. Don't infer or be deceived by appearances."

"Do not give up your authority and follow blindly the will of others. This way will lead to only delusion."

"Find out for yourself what is truth, what is real. Discover that there are virtuous things and there are non-virtuous things. Once you have discovered for yourself give up the bad and embrace the good."

- The Buddha

I am watching this video right now Lydia, in case I did miss something but as far as I know this is the Santa Fe Workshop in New Mexico that many of the Native Americans were asking everyone to protest. Some said they would try to even pay to go so they could go in and speak their piece/peace! They were trying to come up with many different ways to put things right peacefully! If anything else I will put down after I see the rest of this but wanted to let you know this much being that you questioned this part.....

Lydia said:

I hav a hard time accepting this~  Her messages Feel Soo Heart Felt and  I still Like them ~ :o)

So who are these People here with her ~ Are They All Liers ?  I will believe it when I have more proof than just one lady talking on a youtube that I dont know. Thanks for sharing though ~ May Love and Light Prevail !

 

MY DEAREST SIS LORI...AGAIN I AM NOT ABLE TO GIVE MY OPINON ON THIS CASE..ONLY FOR ME THE VIBRATIONS OF KIESHA, AS FOR SOME MAN WITH BAD ENGLISH, NO LIVING IN USA, WITH VERY DIFFERENT MENTALITY AND WITHOUT SOME KNOWLEDGES OF NATIVE AMERICAN AND ELDERS,,, FOR ME ...THE IMPORTANT IS MY INTUITION AND MY INNER FEELING ...WHEN I AM LISTENING MY DEAR KIESHA.....ALL FROM HER IS RESONATING WITH MY SOUL.....AND APOLOGIZE..I AM NOT ABLE TO STUDY ALL THIS IN MY LIMITED TIME.....

I LOVED AND I LOVE MY LITTLE GRANDMOTHER...

 Dear Lori ~ To be Honest ~ I do not research this info because If She is a Sham then that is something that she will need to deal with later On as per Law of  Karma ~ And ~ Meanwhile I listen To Her Videos because to Me they feel Heart Felt and Genuine ~ So For Now I will Not commit to Any Judgement about Her or her actions.

Time Will Reveal All ~ May we All  EnJoy Our Journey Towards Peace Love and Harmony as ONE ! xox

Once again Lydia, beautifully explained. Of course it is not for us but for the Creator..... Live & Let Live!

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